Curse

hyro yamaguchi · May 24, 2006, 05:57 PM // 17:57

WTF! You get annoyed for people telling you what skills you should bring?!?

Ever heard of a thing called build?

You know, like the build of the group.

Which is like team play.

Which would be the key element of Guild Wars

And means the difference between victory and loss

That kind of skill setup?

Well no wonder you got annoyed, we don't want good teams do we?

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shadowfell · May 24, 2006, 06:13 PM // 18:13

I pride myself on never getting ripped off, but in 10 months, I was due...

Jerk: selling max 11-22 plagueborn staff 10/10 offer
me: im interested in staff
Jerk: guildies say I can get 100k, but i will sell around 80k..
me: sounds fair, (why the hell I stopped paying attention, I will never know)

I get staff, he gets my 80k

about 15 minutes later, I look at staff, and its not, 11-22, but 11-21

=[

I message the guy.

me: nice scam, i want my money back

and hes like.

Jerk:youre being childish, what branch of XoO are you in, I'll get you kicked out.

me: trust me, they won't take the word of a scammer for anything.

me: take back your staff and give me back my money, and it ends here

Jerk: Now you're trying to black mail me, I hope you're not an officer

Jerk: What division of XoO are you in

me: Heroes and an officer, what does that matter? You're the scammer?

JerK: I never say things are max

Jerk: Ok, I might have said this was max

me: =( Give me back my money, this is your last chance to make this right or I'm reporting you ( reporting him anyhow)

Jerk has stopped responding by this time

I like how these people just continue to get away with this crap, reported or not... and a real classy move there buddy, threatening to get me kicked out of my guild because you're scum of the RPG world.

axe · May 24, 2006, 06:25 PM // 18:25

I was in HA just standing around seeing what people are looking for so I can try to make that type of character and get some practice with it. And some guys says

"Rank 9 Iway looking for 1 more Warrior we dont care about rank, we are all rank 9 and want to go"

So I thought WOW these guys are pretty cool I have never seen anyone take a non-ranked person into a group, I wish there were more people like this group.

Me = "Ill join"
Jerk = "f----n noob b----, you dont deserve to be in our group"
Me = "OK"
Jerk = "you have to earn your rank just like the rest of us, we didnt get where we are by begging, you ------"
Me= "I didnt think I was begging, but whatever"
Jerk = "why are you defending yourself -----, etc etc"
Me = "why are you acting like a child"
Player Jerk is ignoring you

LOL first he didnt even ask if I was ranked (I wasnt, but still) he just assumed I wasnt (plus the fact that he advertised rank doesnt matter) second he put me on HIS ignore list before I even said one thing offensive to him.

I have to give him credit though I thought it was hilarious and I can only imagine his team of 12 year olds were all busting up laughing.

ubrikkean · May 24, 2006, 06:26 PM // 18:26

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Originally Posted by shadowfell

I pride myself on never getting ripped off, but in 10 months, I was due...

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I like how these people just continue to get away with this crap, reported or not... and a real classy move there buddy, threatening to get me kicked out of my guild because you're scum of the RPG world.

I sympathize with you getting scammed and all, but honestly, if the staff had the desired mods then I don't get what's so freaking important about that 1 less damage... I mean, you're a caster, you probably shouldn't be attacking most of the time anyway... which is another reason why I don't think that staves' req. matters much, just the mods. Of course, it's different for offhands because their req. is for the energy, not damage.

max gladius · May 24, 2006, 06:33 PM // 18:33

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Originally Posted by axe

LOL first he didnt even ask if I was ranked (I wasnt, but still) he just assumed I wasnt (plus the fact that he advertised rank doesnt matter) second he put me on HIS ignore list before I even said one thing offensive to him.

Thats what realy pisses me off more then anything... i mean realy, let me earn my ignoring before u ignore me... comone ppl, give us a break to defend ourselves and vent alittle at ur ignorance...

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Originally Posted by ubrikkean

I sympathize with you getting scammed and all, but honestly, if the staff had the desired mods then I don't get what's so freaking important about that 1 less damage... I mean, you're a caster, you probably shouldn't be attacking most of the time anyway... which is another reason why I don't think that staves' req. matters much, just the mods. Of course, it's different for offhands because their req. is for the energy, not damage.

You took the words right out of my mouth...

Most my favorite cast weapons r 1 or 2 below max.... cause as u put it, casting speed, reset speed, eng r way more important then a few dmg...

but now seeing as how easy it is to get a "perfect" i would expect the max dmg at the same time, and a staff for 80k, wow, must be a nice one.... havent seen one like that in atleast 4 months...

Kaguya · May 24, 2006, 08:28 PM // 20:28

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Originally Posted by ubrikkean

I sympathize with you getting scammed and all, but honestly, if the staff had the desired mods then I don't get what's so freaking important about that 1 less damage...

The fact the guy advertised the staff as 'max' should be enough to warrant it as a 'scam', I wouldn't care if they said it had perfect mods but missing one dmg from the top.. False advertising

Commander Ryker · May 24, 2006, 10:01 PM // 22:01

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Originally Posted by max gladius

4 comments in a row, none bout game stuff, all just commenting on ppl posting up here...hmmm, game isnt down again is it, like the error 37 thread was....

/nocomment

Yes, it was about comments people made but they were comments about the game. sheesh

shadowfell · May 24, 2006, 10:17 PM // 22:17

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Originally Posted by ubrikkean

I sympathize with you getting scammed and all, but honestly, if the staff had the desired mods then I don't get what's so freaking important about that 1 less damage... I mean, you're a caster, you probably shouldn't be attacking most of the time anyway... which is another reason why I don't think that staves' req. matters much, just the mods. Of course, it's different for offhands because their req. is for the energy, not damage.

Ideally, yes, but for the sake of arguement... I'm paying 80k for a 10/10 staff with 11-22 dmg, nothing to do with req. He adverted it, as 11-22, my own fault for not seeing, or paying attention to the trade. But the point is, yesh, I don't care about the req, dmg, really, but If I wanted to buy a 10/10 staff, non max dmg, I could buy those all day long for 15-35k, depending on skin. Not... 80k, a considerable amount of money. So, yah, he ripped me off, any way you look at it.

I'm a serious staff collector, anyone who knows me in GW, or in the trading community, knows why I buy staffs and it's not really for usage, so much as something I will keep around a bit, and resell eventually. This has absolutely -zero- resale value, at this point, so I am forced to keep it, and customize it, because really, who wants to pay 80k for a 10/10 staff 1 point from max?

I'm a nooooooob.

Wyrmdog · May 24, 2006, 11:56 PM // 23:56

I've been playing a Ranger lately because I got a really really nice bow drop on my Monk and thought, "It's not perfect, but it's awfully close. I'll just use it."

Henching most of the early story missions is pretty easy and the damage off my new bow made me a crazy death-dealer so I figured I'd watch general for people who couldn't find teams and help them out. After all, I needed the missions too.

I got into Surmia and snagged another Ranger who was looking. We picked up Alesia and headed out.

We're having general chit-chat while we play, talking about skills and showing each other our bows and how often we play when I make a comment about my kids governing my playtime. Suddenly he asks if I'm a MILF.

I get quiet for a sec and he goes, "I'd ask how old you are but that'd be rude."

I responded with, "But the MILF comment was just you being polite, right?" or something to that effect. I later had to explain that my studded leather was only a virtual miniskirt.

Sometimes...sometimes I just don't understand what gets typed at me.

X God Of Fire X · May 25, 2006, 03:05 AM // 03:05

LOL yeah ppl are kinda desperate I see most lately in GW i know its mostly play but it can gt kinda freaky.... i mean some 12 year old horn-dog child comes up to you and says that..i can tell the reaction

but other than that it kinda pisses me off when im tring to go in HA and ppl are just rejeting me on my rank(witch is 0 btw) when i know im acompetent player and the pug groups never work and i cant attain rank if i never get into a good group and my guild ,although good, is kinda small so guild bouts are out of the question wtf can i do?

Maria The Princess · May 25, 2006, 04:45 AM // 04:45

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Originally Posted by X God Of Fire X

LOL yeah ppl are kinda desperate I see most lately in GW i know its mostly play but it can gt kinda freaky.... i mean some 12 year old horn-dog child comes up to you and says that..i can tell the reaction

but other than that it kinda pisses me off when im tring to go in HA and ppl are just rejeting me on my rank(witch is 0 btw) when i know im acompetent player and the pug groups never work and i cant attain rank if i never get into a good group and my guild ,although good, is kinda small so guild bouts are out of the question wtf can i do?

same here.... my guild is all pve, and when pvp people come online, i have to log out. took me forever to get 10 fame...lol

now th only pvp my guild does is allienc battles, but im not sure if we get fame from there or only factions

Sakura.X · May 25, 2006, 05:23 AM // 05:23

So I (Monk) was helping a guildie (Ranger) get a cap in Elora and we decided to join a party and help them do the mission as well.

After getting past the 1st cut scene the warrior suddenly decides he's going to run it off he goes, aggro's just about everything makes a wrong turn aggro's more. Then he starts screaming at me to heal him and of course I'm nowhere near him. Finally catch up to him and the rest of the group he of course is dead by then and the others are trying to kill what he's dragged. I heal them he spams me to rez his sorry butt (He adds a few insults as well) but of course I'm busy keeping everyone else alive. Finally kill the mobs and rez him. He starts swearing at me like you wouldn't believe naturally I'm not going to take that. Put him on my ignore list and the guildie I'm with and myself leave, I hope the others in party did the same.

bele · May 25, 2006, 06:31 AM // 06:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by hyro yamaguchi

WTF! You get annoyed for people telling you what skills you should bring?!?

Ever heard of a thing called build?

You know, like the build of the group.

Which is like team play.

Which would be the key element of Guild Wars

And means the difference between victory and loss

That kind of skill setup?

Well no wonder you got annoyed, we don't want good teams do we?

...

Please, before posting anything quoting someone, read it plz.

Read it twice.

hyro yamaguchi · May 25, 2006, 11:14 AM // 11:14

I read it before I typed it yes, and I know it was a n00b telling so, but if you say, I always hate it when people try to tell me what skills to take, I consider that as more than only that time, more like everytime someone does that, even when it's in the profit of the team, and I personally ahte the people who aren't willing to change their build for the sake of the team.

wolfe2dale · May 25, 2006, 03:19 PM // 15:19

The following is a PVE only comment, do not take this as PVP:

I have to admit that I automatically leave any PUG if the leader wants me to change to their pet build. I’m more than happy to bring a specific skill if the mission relies on it, but to assume that you know so much better than someone else that you feel the need to change all their skills. That kind of arrogance I can do without in a leader.

Maybe that makes me a jerk, but I find teams that have overbearing leaders tend to lose.

For instance, I play a N/Mo a lot at the moment, he is a quite accomplished MM without using any monk skills. That is only my secondary because I like to use the monk resurrect due to it’s unlimited applications.

I have a 16 in Death and tend to raise a motley band of Fiends, Horrors & Minions. I use BoTM as a heal & have a 13 in Blood as a secondary for Life Siphon/Well of Blood to keep myself & others alive in a desperate situation. The rest of my points are in soul reaping to keep my energy levels up.

I find this is more than adequate for any mission where exploitable corpses are available. (I have a Blood/Curse build for missions where corpses tend to be in short supply).

So tell me why I should change my skill set just because someone tells me they know better?

Dwiggit · May 25, 2006, 05:40 PM // 17:40

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Originally Posted by wolfe2dale

For instance, I play a N/Mo a lot at the moment, he is a quite accomplished MM without using any monk skills. That is only my secondary because I like to use the monk resurrect due to it’s unlimited applications.
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So tell me why I should change my skill set just because someone tells me they know better?

Yeah, playing a necro is just fun!

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Originally Posted by hyro yamaguchi

I read it before I typed it yes, and I know it was a n00b telling so, but if you say, I always hate it when people try to tell me what skills to take, I consider that as more than only that time, more like everytime someone does that, even when it's in the profit of the team, and I personally ahte the people who aren't willing to change their build for the sake of the team.

I'm always happy to adjust skills to the needs of the mission:
Need Order of the Vampire for a pack of Warriors? You got it!
Need Spiteful Spirit for enemy Warriors? You got it!
Need some bonding protections? You got it!
Need healing/recharge/protect/curses....etc.... You got it!

Just let me choose how I set up the rest of my build.

And don't beat me over the head telling me I'm stupid for bringing a skill!

(My point from previous post.)

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Originally Posted by bele

Please, before posting anything quoting someone, read it plz.

Read it twice.

Thanks for the support Bele!

Dwig

Wyrmdog · May 25, 2006, 10:20 PM // 22:20

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Originally Posted by X God Of Fire X

LOL yeah ppl are kinda desperate I see most lately in GW i know its mostly play but it can gt kinda freaky.... i mean some 12 year old horn-dog child comes up to you and says that..i can tell the reaction

The thing is, I understand that the brain interprets visual input quite literally and that there isn't anything fundamentally wrong with finding an in-game character attractive. What gets me are how far some people are willing to take their comments regarding it.

arcady · May 25, 2006, 11:13 PM // 23:13

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Originally Posted by hyro yamaguchi

. . . You get annoyed for people telling you what skills you should bring?!?

Ever heard of a thing called build?

You know, like the build of the group.

Which is like team play.
. . .

I'm something of a 'simulationist' with thouches of 'dramatist' and very little 'gamist'.

I want a rich world I can feel a sense of belief in, and I want a plot and story around my character and his/her life. The 'game' of advancing and winning challenges has little value for me.

I look at what a character has on them and personally figure I should just take it for what it is. Rather than 'min-max' the builds of a team, get 4-6 characters together and work with what you've got - features and failings all.

Not so much PvE or PvP as it is PinE.

I know you can unlearn one skill to learn another, but to me it feels 'simulation-wise' wrong. I don't know anyone in real life who unlearns A to gain B - so I feel odd letting my character get away with it even if (s)he can according to the game rules. While it is good 'gamism' to min-max a group's builds, it is bad 'PinE' - and the 'PinE' is where I get my enjoyment.

arcady · May 25, 2006, 11:23 PM // 23:23

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Originally Posted by Wyrmdog

We're having general chit-chat while we play, talking about skills and showing each other our bows and how often we play when I make a comment about my kids governing my playtime. Suddenly he asks if I'm a MILF.

I get quiet for a sec and he goes, "I'd ask how old you are but that'd be rude."

I responded with, "But the MILF comment was just you being polite, right?" ...

That's about as tacky as the old 'hey baby what's your sign?' as the guy pulls out his mood ring to show her he's all hot and bothered. It's so 'lame 70s updated for the 00s'... It deserves a slap, punch, or at least ignoring in real life... and it isn't made much better in virtual... I'd say it's number 1 on the top-10 list of 'worst ways to begin a conversation with a woman' only I've seen worse... much worse...

I used to get stuff like this all the time at table top RPGs in my teens whenever I dared a female PC... I've got some really strange stories from those days... the kind that would make you glad you have the screen of 'virtualism' to be able to avoid them with... You just have to wonder with some people.

Casido Rabit · May 25, 2006, 11:54 PM // 23:54

Biggest jerk I have ever met - a monk in The Deep. Thought he was the lurd as he was the only free monk. Our group were the 'chosen' and had him with us. So after yelling at the two w/m he announced he wasnt healing either of us as he was above that kind of healing... I asked in a petty childish way if he did sexual healing (great song) and I got called a RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO of satan and other pleasant things; I got him on ignore but y'know some people....just can't deal with a decent song...

Serious point Anet - we need a bigger friends/foes list.... I have re-edited this list over and over but people that deserve striking from a list shouldnt be allowed the luxury of thinking in a week or two they will be free to do it all again......